Comments on: The Mighty Crash

By: Shadows of Love » Truth, Can We Know it Absolutely?

Shadows of Love » Truth, Can We Know it Absolutely? — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 06:01:00 +0000

[...] lately…as many of you undoubtedly know. In this line of posts, there is The Mighty Crash and Our Impending [...]

By: Shadows of Love » Our Impending Doom

Shadows of Love » Our Impending Doom — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:26:44 +0000

[...] In early September I wrote a post entitled The Mighty Crash. I wrote that post from the perspective that I had left foundationalism behind, only to realize mid-way through it that I, in fact, had not. [...]

By: Chelsie Harris

Chelsie Harris — Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:56:04 +0000

Dude. I know. And what a contradiction that is, eh? Love is free of fine print-that’s it appeal My mental scenario usually goes down like this: Hey, I think we’re all Love. What?? You can’t accept that? Aren’t you tired of the ifs/buts? Haven’t you had enough religious dogma to yack it back up? You like it?? How is that simple?!
…but it’s true that systematizing is another habit we gotta unlearn. and be patient with in others.

…they say public confession is good for the ego

looking forward to hearing “scatter plot” Jeffrey thought!

By: Jeffrey

Jeffrey — Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:59:31 +0000

chels, yeah i think it is possible to know truths without systematizing them, but i’ve noticed a danger within myself of doing so simply b/c that is what i’ve been programmed to do.

i actually realized about 2 weeks ago that i had begun to become dogmatic and systematic about Love…yikes!

in talking with ur dad and jim last week at starbucks, i think i came to the understanding that it is an issue of paradigm. you can take the same random “truths” and either use them as a foundation or a “scatter plot” (as your dad has started calling it). the issue is not the truths, but what the person does with them.

remind me to tell you in person about my “scatter plot” idea next time i see you.

By: Chelsie Harris

Chelsie Harris — Mon, 17 Sep 2007 01:32:21 +0000

Parallel Universe alert! I think we’ve been there!

For me those foundational beliefs have cracked and fallen away so that they’re not much more than sand . Building a house on the sand isn’t advisable (what’s that? a parable? I suppose the language of our foundation is slower to fade), so why build it? If you can’t have a firm foundation and will constantly be battling inconsistencies, weak points, and shifts, why construct a belief system that naturally requires dependence?
It is possible to know truths without systematizing them. Not to mention that truths we find, like Love, don’t require a system, but are actually more dependable. It makes a lot of sense to say that core truths aren’t necessarily built on, but lived in their purest form. Then, there’s no need for worry about Agrippa’s Trilemma…any argument reaches a dogmatic stopping point, free from its circluation, when you address it with Love, –its value fades and its conclusion is second to every-momentary awareness of what really matters…if we can’t get past our foundations (even the bits we may still have) to acknowledge that, then they truly do us no good.